E7. How to Stay 'lit' without burning out. (Leadership without Self-sacrifice) with Zoe Fragou

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In this episode, we’re talking about burnout—what it really looks like for leaders, and why it’s not just about being “too busy.” Organizational Psychologist Zoe Fragou joins us to unpack the warning signs, share practical ways to prevent burnout, and explore how leaders can stay committed without sacrificing their well-being. If you’ve ever felt the pressure to keep pushing through... this one’s for you. 0:00 Intro & Welcome to the episode 2:47 Rethinking our relationship with work 4:44 Reinventing yourself (and your career) 5:50 You’ve changed… Now what? 7:40 Not all stress is the same. 10:29 Good Vs Bad stress 12:23 When “Good” stress becomes dangerous 15:10 Creativity comes in Void 17:18 Why creativity is generated when you slow down 20:02 The difference between stress and burnout 28:04 Stages of burnout 31:04 Burnout, numbing, and coping mechanisms 34:12 Busyness is not a badge of Honor 35:27 How to deal with burnout 40:27 The 7 types of rest (and why you need them) 43:19 No one will save you from burnout 49:13 Hiring for culture (Not just skills) 53:54 Preventing burnout through Psychological Safety 56:14 When do my rights stop? 1:00:14 When to let people go (Without the drama) 1:05:11 How to give direct feedback without loosing the relationship 1:17:45 The one thing that will prevent burnout --------------- About Zoe Fragou Zoe Fragou is an Organizational Psychologist and award-winning Business Coach, known for helping leaders build workplaces that support both performance and human well-being. With a master’s in HR Management, a clinical psychologist license, and advanced credentials in Business Coaching, Agile Leadership, and Mentorship, she brings deep expertise to her work. Zoe leads culture transformation and employee training initiatives for Fortune 500 companies across the globe. She’s also a trainer for the World Health Organization, supporting public health leadership missions in countries like Kazakhstan and Ukraine. Currently a Doctoral Candidate at EU Business School, she researches organizational behavior and how it can evolve for the better. Outside of her consulting and academic work, she’s a vocal advocate for mental health, human rights, and women’s empowerment—and the host of the YouTube vodcast Straight Outta Life. Learn more about Zoe - https://www.fragouzoe.com --------------- About Vaso Vardaki Vaso Vardaki is an award-winning Leadership and Team Coach with over 19 years of experience and more than 2,000 hours of professional coaching with leaders across 75 industries worldwide. She leads projects on team effectiveness, culture transformation, and leadership development—helping organizations build stronger, more connected workplaces. Vaso holds an MBA, a master’s in Human Communication Sciences, and a Bachelor's in Speech Therapy. She is a Professional Certified Coach (PCC) with the International Coaching Federation and a Senior Practitioner with EMCC Global. She’s also the author of the personal development book Truth or Dare and the host of The Leadership in Progress Podcast. Vaso is passionate about helping leaders grow and teams thrive. Her mission is to contribute to organizational cultures where people work with inspiration, joy, and trust—bringing out their best selves, together. More About Vaso at - https://vasovardaki.com/